[Csaladtortenet 2] Question about GILICZE

[Zsuzsanna Larsson Gilice]

Thank you, very valuable information. As I mentioned this is new to me and I just have a vague knowledge about the region. 
Thanks a lot!

Kindest regards
Zsuzsanna Larsson Gilice
Artist MFA 
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> 2 okt. 2019 kl. 23:23 skrev Julia Szent-Gyorgyi <jpmiaou at gmail.com>:
> 
> The cz versus c spelling of the sound /ts/ (like in "cats") was a
> change in the spelling rules that went into effect basically right
> around the first world war. Some families updated the spelling of
> their surnames, or had it updated by their local clerks and
> registrars; other families stuck with the old spelling, either because
> they insisted on it, or because their local clerks didn't think to
> change their (or anyone else's) ways. (My grandmother's family name
> was Selmeczy; there's some variation in the records between -i and -y,
> but it's always -cz-.) In either case, once you get back into pre-war
> records, you'll need to look for the -cz- version, because that was
> the correct way to spell that sound at that time. (Going back even
> further, you'll start to see other variations: -tsz-, -tz-, or in
> German or Latin records, -ts-.)
> 
>> seems I can’t have access to anyakönyv which are not online.
> 
> What religion? FamilySearch has Roman Catholic registers online for
> Szabadka, with the baptisms (mostly) indexed. They also have some
> Protestant and Greek Orthodox registers
> (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=73247&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Hungary%2C%20B%C3%A1cs-Bodrog%2C%20Szabadka%22&subjectsOpen=410607-50),
> unindexed and confusingly cataloged, but worth a look if you're
> certain that your relatives were in Szabadka or one of the outlying
> farms or settlements belonging to it. (The 1913 gazetteer lists
> Kelebia as one of these.)
> 
> Speaking of confusingly cataloged material, FS also has the civil
> registrations for Szabadka up to 1910
> (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/3006908). Some of the
> entries are actually for handwritten indexes (which switch to
> Serbo-Croatian partway through), but the register images are there,
> too. The dates overlap on some of them because the local registrar had
> a weird method of keeping even-numbered entries in one book and
> odd-numbered ones in a separate book. I have no idea how he determined
> whether any particular event was even or odd. Luckily once the
> multi-entry forms were put into use, he had to abandon this insanity.
> 1910 is too early for finding your grandfather's register entry, but
> the marriage of his parents may be there. (Marriages are at the bottom
> of the catalog page. Their descriptions include the phrase "Maticna
> knjiga vencanih".) It'll take some time, patience, and bandwidth --
> Szabadka ain't small.
> 
> Juli
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